They’re Coming for Your AR’s and Standard Capacity Magazines
The Chicago Sun Times reported yesterday that the Democratic caucus of the Illinois General Assembly (ILGA) plans to bring forward a semi-auto firearms ban during the lame duck session in January. The text of the proposed bill* was released later and it should horrify any gun owner. The bill is facially unconstitutional, and we are planning the court challenges. *focus on the strike-through and underlined text at that link, everything else is current law.
Major trouble areas of the bill:
- State-wide registry of most currently owned semi-auto rifles and shotguns
- Ban on sales of most or most semi-auto rifles and shotguns
- Ban on sale and possession of all (long gun and hand gun) magazines holding more than 10 rounds
- Raise the age for FOID eligibility to 21
- Firearm Restraining Orders extend from the current 6 to 12 months
This bill has an immediate effective date, as soon as the Governor signs it.
Penalties: P. 65 line 9
A person who knowingly manufactures, delivers, sells, purchases, or possesses or causes to be manufactured, delivered, sold, purchased, or possessed an assault weapon in violation of this Section commits a Class 3 felony for a first violation and a Class 2 felony for a second or subsequent violation or for the possession or delivery of 2 or more of these weapons at the same time.
Fail to “register” your AR, and you’re potentially a felon and stripped of your rights.
(b) Except as provided in subsection (c), it is unlawful for any person within this State to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase, or possess or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, or purchased a large capacity ammunition feeding device…
(d) Sentence. A person who knowingly delivers, sells, purchases, or causes to be delivered, sold, or purchased in violation of this Section a large capacity ammunition feeding device capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition commits a Class 3 felony for a first violation and a Class 2 felony for a second or subsequent violation or for delivery or possession of 2 or more of these devices at the same time. Any other violation of this Section is a Class A misdemeanor.
So good news: you’ll only catch a misdemeanor for that spare Glock 17 mag you forgot about.
The General Assembly lame duck session runs in early January (4th-7th and 10th). They have the votes to pass this. It is not obvious how the Department of the State Police would manage the registration of hundreds of thousands of firearms. The act has an immediate effective date, so, while the Governor has 60 Days to sign or not sign, we expect his signature very quickly, meaning this thing could be law by late January.
This is an expensive fight, and it is one that we must and will win.
We will not argue the merits of this “assault weapons” ban. The other side is pandering to emotionally driven people who know nothing about guns, and they cannot be reasoned with nor can they be persuaded of the futility and unconstitutionality of this act.
This is absolutely Unconstitutional. First off all an AR is not an assault rifle. And having a 10 round or 100 round magazine is our right. Start constraining on unlawful gun owners and leave the law abiding gun owners out of this witch hunt.
As usual, Democrats make criminals out of law abiding citizens and let real criminals run wild where is their plan to disarm real crimonals
I can’t stand this state. If you look at the Red/blue voting map my guess is 90% of the state votes republican based on land mass. Yet we’re held hostage the most populous areas like crook county and their policies that have bankrupted us. We will continue to deal with population loss, never ending tax increases, pension debt, crime, and constitutional right infringements. I don’t think the problems of this state are repairable, As long as I value my marriage I am stuck here to be close to the in-laws. Been here all 42 years of my life and I’m beyond sick if it.
It figures Illinois protecting criminals and low life scum but law abiding citizens won’t be able to defend themselves
I feel safer knowing the gangbangers will only be carrying 10 round magazines in their illegal guns
This is the start of a national wide ban I bet
Will law enforcement be robots for Pritzker’s, or will they uphold the Constitutional oath they took?
Can’t wait to leave this state. Born and raised here never thought it would come to this. You make a mistake and the system never lets you forget. Serve your country and protect the constitution and all you get hollow gestures and violations of your rights. You can protect your country but you can’t protect your home your family or yourself. The rest of the world just laughing at this country. Institutionalized rascism rogue law enforcement corruption in our judicial system and politicians until those issues are resolved the law abiding citizen will be getting stripped of their rights just a matter of time you’ll need a pass to walk the streets.
So how can we fight this bill?
We are building a coalition of the best 2A groups to file multiple lawsuits in federal court should this pass. Please support our efforts.
This is ridiculous and as for how much of our state is red I agree so how did he win!!!!!!
I hate Illinois! Illinois has now become a police-state just like North Korea and Communist China where a dis-armed citizenry
is totally subservient to the government. I have been trying to convince my wife that we need to leave Illinois. It’s a shame because I have lived
in Illinois my whole life. The Democrats have driven the state into the ground and it’s beyond repair. You will now be a criminal and a felon in Illinois simply because you own and possess a perfectly legal firearm under the Second Amendment.
Any type of gun registry is unconstitutional it’s all unconstitutional
I will be posting this to the 10,000 members of Gun Rights 4 Illinois and will ask people to be prepared to donate to the suits
Thank you for your support.
https://www.facebook.com/361053087367674/posts/pfbid02HqWYhbEKYgmFjFNTKKQtNuK7RVsMBby5bG8iaZYzqSEMNMV5bGjQryEnvm4NvK41l/?mibextid=Nif5oz. Please sign the witness slip
I will not allow you to take away my constitutional rights
Fred Flintstone as a dicktator again. Stand up Illinois and bake that potato head.
Lets build a wall around Chicago.This is where all the crime is
Illinois will we a great state with nout Chicago.
AR platforms are already banned in certain areas of Illinois. Cook county already being one and Dupage another. What good is it doing? It’s not going to make the slightest difference. Pritzker and sleepy Joe need to be voted out. Starting January 1st criminals in Illinois will have it much easier without the cash bail system, and now they want to take away law abiding citizens protection? Makes a lot of sense democrats. Morons.
I despise what is talking place in Illinois, it isn’t right that a bunch of dumbass, hypocritical, millionaire politicans, who got rich on taxpayers money can make law abiding seniors into criminals. My wife and I have not and certainly do not intend to commit a crime. We live in rural downstate Illinois and just want to be able to hunt and protect ourselves. It’s very hard for us to fight a corrupt governor and his minions while trying to get by on social security only. Makes one feel really hopeless.
They cannot bypass the constitution
History repeats itself doesn’t it? There is a solution! Why doesn’t this country and specifically the state of Illinois declare war on known repeat criminals who intentionally kill, rob, steal, rape and an outright a danger to society. Ask yourself how did the Romans or Medieval countries deal with with this? Didn’t they go in force with their entire armies or a large contingent of soldiers to conquer and eliminate the oppression? Didn’t we do the same with Bin Laden, American Indians? Government is capable but refuses solve the issue within the framework of the US Constitution. For over fifty years Chicago has failed and its overdue for drastic measures. However, leave it to the government to *always* get it wrong. Why in Gods name has our government betrayed its oath to the Constitution and is violating our rights under that Constitution? Why cant we vote them out of office? (Corruption or Stupidity, or both). By the time SCOTUS rules on any litigation before it regarding HB5855 and its expected unconstitutional ruling, the Government will be well on their way of confiscating thousands of dollars in property that was once lawful and the expense involved defending yourself. Finally, I find it interesting that IL Congress has 21 women and 12 men who are co-sponsors of this bill which tells us all HB5855 is a bias effort by those who are unqualified, incompetent to serve or co-sponsor any bill that on its face is illegal. “A tyrant is never safe from those oppressed”.
I don’t do anything the government tells me to do didn’t get that shot either if you don’t like me come fight me
A semi automatic AR15/AK47 is not an assault weapons. They are sporting rifles.
I believe that term started in World War Two. When Thompson, sterling’s, schmiser s, ,, sub machine guns came out.
All fully automatic firearms. AR15/ AK 47’s are not fully automatic.
Fully automatic weapons are already illegal in illinois.
Under the 1934 NATIONAL FIREARMS ACT. MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE NFA ACT.
I also believe the socialist democratic party started calling our AR15/AK47’s, assault rifles during the failed 1994-2004 “assault rifle ” ban. ATF,FBI statistics showed very few AR15’s/AK 47’s were used in crimes. Congress declined to continue this failed attempt at disarming America. They have erroneously called many semi automatic hunting rifles like AR’s/AK’s assault rifles since then.
I read, today that the Highland Park shooters father was arrested. For signing for his son to obtain an ILLINOIS FIREARM OWNERS I.D. CARD.F.O.I.D. CARD.
After the father.knew his son mentioned wanting to commit murder.
After knowing his son was suicidal.
After the Highland Park. police Dept was involved with his son and issues.
It was a tragedy. The shooting. The victims. Those lost.
Adults age 18-21 can posses rifles and shotguns for hunting.
They should not be punished for being responsible gun owners. Sportsmen. Target shooters. Shooting competitors.
50 cal firearms.
The Desert Eagle is a semi automatic pistol. It fires a 50AE cartridge.
The Smith and Wesson 500 revolver fires a 50 caliber round.
Many Alaskins cArry that pistol for Bear protection.
The 50AE too. Hunters, hikers, campers are included. Many in our upper U.S. were bears are found.
Bears have even wandered into illinois before. Several from Wisconsin. In western Illinois. Wolf’s too. It is REDICULOUS to want to restrict any ammo that is a 50 Cal, in general.
Many firearm standard magazines , like semi auto pistols, come with, up to 20 rounds.
AR15 / AK47 rifles come standard with 20 round magazines.
There I s reported over 20 million AR15’s sold in the U.S.
I don’t even remember the mum Sr of magazines, rifle and pistol, that the ATF has said, have been sold in the U.S . I believe hundreds of millions.
Look at the covid apocalypse(NOT) of 2020.the rioting in democratic cities, like Chicago.
The month to month record guns sales.
The month to month record new and renewed FOID CARD in ILLINOIS .
Month to month record conceal carry permits.
ILLINOIS, only 1 of 8 states that require you have state permission to purchase /own firearms or. Ammunition. California, 6 east coast states like New York, New Jersey are included.
ILLINOIS is the only inland state with an FOID SYSTEM. the Illinois state Police were so swamped in 2020-2021 (now ??). If you applied for an FOID OR RENEWAL. OR A CONCEAL CARRY PERMIT.
YOUR WERE ADVISED TO CARRY THE PAPERWORK FoR 18 months. Before you might get a card.
Several gun dealers refused to sell those people guns or ammo.since illinois law said you needed a card in your possession!!.
Biden was going to try and ban these firearms. He was advised it needed to be an act of congress.
Registration of firearms. All over the world has led to complete government take over.
I saw a bumper sticker.
It said turn in your guns. Your government will protect you. Signed ADOLPH HITLER.
AN UNARMED SOCIETY ARE CALLED SUBJECTS.
AN ARMED SOCIETY ARE CALLED CITIZENS.
I AM 100% against all parts of this bill.
State police were swamped in 2020-2021. How in the heck do you expect a few hundred State Troooers to look for tens of millions of firearms and magazine. Decades of future searching.
Are we up to several hundred thousand FOID holders and conceal carry card holders.
If each bought one modern semiautomatic pistol.
They come with 2-3 magazines over 10 rounds.
You could be looking fur over 400-600,000 magazines. Fur pistols.
No borders, no rule of law, and no representation. Organize and act accordingly.
These politicians need to look at what they have caused before going after law abiding citizens. The boarders are open and out of control. How many of these criminals wondering the streets are actually here legally? I bet a good percentage have come across our open borders illegally and they are lilling each other and us too.
Chicago has some of the toughest gun in the country and also a very high gun crime rate. Why, because there is a lack of enforcement of current laws. Wake up America….criminals do not give a shit about laws and if this bill passes it will be open season on law abiding citizens. I can see more people leaving the state of Illinois if this bill passes.
Worst State with Biggest criminal’s are goverment imployees……Steal from Good people to take away are rights
These bans have been tried many times before but always failed. This time I’m more worried. Senate is only hope before litigation. What are Springfield Armory, Rock River Arms, DS Arms etc. saying/doing? Damn these democrats all to hell.
All these freaking idiots have voted for these dumbasses that are in office they need to be put in front of a damn firing squad my opinion they’re just as bad as the ones we got in crook county Illinois oh I’m sorry I meant Cook county no I said it right crook county that’s right I said it crook county Chicago Illinois that’s where all our money goes for all their shit they’ve got up there why the rest of us sit here and suffer for the BS they put us through prickster and old sleepy Joe need to be voted out of office and so is that damn Nancy Pelosi she’s just as bad as the rest of them and just as damn senile that’s ridiculous Illinois we got to do something about this we can’t let him take our rights away my second amendment amendment is the right to bear arms and I will bear arms until the day I die and I got news for you you better bring yours when you come to take mine cuz you ain’t going down without a fight and I’m not the only one that thinks that they’ll be a lot of people that ride with me on this one and a lot of people in back me on this come to us hillbillies backwoods boys however you want to call whatever you want to call rednecks whatever it is but I guarantee you you come our way you’re going to get a good old country ass whipping when you do and you can take that one to the bank I hope everybody signs this to where they can’t take our rights away because prickster and don’t sleep with Joe is trying to make this a communist country let it go back to martial law and after the first year somebody comes in and tries to do anything at my place guaranteed they don’t like it when it’s over with cuz they won’t be standing and just so you know I am using my American constitutional right of freedom of speech and there ain’t nothing anybody can do about it to the rest of you guys out there that are on my side about this as well as me being on your side along with everybody else Merry Christmas to you all
For those not liking the state, stop whing, pack your bags, get out of the way, and leave. For the rest of us, use some common sense, join a creditable organization and be prepared to fight this with all the resources you are able to muster. For some, that could be financial aid and for others, it may be volunteering to work on a committee, help with the public campaigns or wherever you can be of assistance.
We don’t need to preach to the choir, we need to preach to the public, take back our ability to raise our children with moral guidelines and get government out of setting family policies. We also need to get anyone taking lobbying dollars to change their vote out of office by publicizing their names prior to the next election.
dont target the tools of criminals. criminals do not care about the laws and they can always find new tools. target the criminals. Identify gangs are terrorist organizations. the FBI defines terrorists as ” Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature. -FBI” street gangs fall under this definition. stop targeting our 2nd amendment right. as a veteran seeing this state do this I am greatly disappointed. when nationals of countries we defeated in war were allowed to own and carry assault weapons. yet we as American citizens must watch as politicians try to take this from us. it is sad and disappointing. all of you who have sponsored and co sponsored this bill should not be elected again. none of you deserve the pay check you are receiving.
Why is Illinois politicians the biggest single violators of the US Constitution. First requiring mandatory vaccine to first responders then taking guns from there hand. We are honest people working hard for what we have. Get harder on criminals. With you’re new no bond no jail. Punish criminals not honest people